you have to pay taxes. you are going pay a fine. there will be some admission of wrong doing. so it is not amnesty in any sense of the word. >> chris, susan was just talking about warmer temperatures today. it does feel different. maybe we're just all so hungry for anything that's bipart sfwlan, but this seems to be real. >> it does seem to be real. i would say that i think what senators mccain and schumer are talking about is the nub of the issue. particularly can republican members of congress convince their -- themselves and the people who elect them that this path to citizenship clause is tough enough that it doesn't amount to just saying, well, it's okay. you broke the rules. you can still be in this country. that's always been the tough thing. look, this was the same john mccain who when he was faceed in a primary chalening 2010 had an ad in which he is walking a border talking to a sheriff and says we need to complete the dang fence. the politics of this issue in the republican base are not as simple as they might look right now. i would say the involvement of a marco r